Trade Discussion

imevil wrote:

wait, the eagles have landry, i traded him to them

hes saying the eagles are giving landry, not getting him

yes

whats the deqal on the
To Saints:
QB: Marc Bulger 89/31/6
RB: HB: Marion Barber 93 7 24
WR: Lee Evans 91 - 1 - 27
RB: Tashad Choice 77/3/23
5 Contract Points

To Cowboys:

QB: Drew Brees 94 4 29
RB: Deuce McAllister 86 4 29
WR: Marques Colston 94 4 25 deal?

Denied

What happened to the steelers/eagles trade?

Harper41 wrote:

What happened to the steelers/eagles trade?

it hadnt been agreed on in a week, so we deleted it

is this where i post trades that we've agreed on for approval? if so...


Panthers get:

Jackson 87 CB
Burleson 83 WR

and

Ravens get:

Marshall 83 CB
Gonzalez 80 WR
3rd round pick

Eazy wrote:

is this where i post trades that we've agreed on for approval? if so...


Panthers get:

Jackson 87 CB
Burleson 83 WR

and

Ravens get:

Marshall 83 CB
Gonzalez 80 WR
3rd round pick

post it in pending trades, you also should include ages and contract lengths, as well as the full names

Eazy wrote:

ok. this is my first time doing this...

Panthers get:

CB Marlin Jackson 87/25/2
WR Nate Burleson 83/27/2

and

Ravens get:

CB Richard Marshall 83/23/2
WR Anthony Gonzalez 80/23/4
3rd round pick

I agree.

Your name fits you well, for you are 'eazy' to rip off.

Take out the 3rd round pick and it might be fair.

Weren't Jackson and Burleson both injured? If so, I don't see their ratings going up much, if they even stay the same.

Gonzalez on the other hand looks to be improving, and will likely be a mid80s. Combine that with the fact that the 3rd is around 79, and I'd say you are getting ripped.

Sorry, I failed to mention to the Titans GM, its the Steelers 3rd I'm trading. I don't even own my own 3rd.

I edited the original post in the Pending Trades thread with information pertaining to offseason trades, make sure to check it out.

and I edited it again cuz sox sucks

Touchdown Jesus wrote:

and I edited it again cuz sox sucks

lol

Mr.Showtime wrote:

Arizona Cardinals get:
SS Troy Polamalu 98 - 28 - 3
ROLB James Harrison 98 - 31 - 1
DT Casey Hampton 96 - 31 - 1
RT Max Starks 78 - 27 - 1
5th Round Pick Pittsburgh
6th Round Pick Pittsburgh



Pittsburgh Steelers get:
SS Adrian Wilson - 98 - 29 - 1
LT Mike Gandy - 94 - 30 - 1
MLB Gerald Hayes - 89 - 28 - 3
FB Terrelle Smith - 88 - 31 - 2
ROLB Chike Okeafor - 85 - 32 - 1
RE Travis Laboy - 86 - 28 - 4
DT Alan Branch - 79 - 24 - 2
WR Reggie Williams - 78 - 26 - 2


Denied 3-2

Heres the deciding voters comment.

Quote :

I really can't vote yes to this... Ruskie is just piling on not very helpful players (Smith, Williams, Okeafor) and he's getting three +95 players. Quality > Quantity. I think if Ruskie replaced those guys with a low 90s player or so, I might be able to vote yes.

I feel that I was treated unfairly in this voting.

Harper obviously had bad feelings after I called him out, and he voted no.

In addition, I fail to see how 'not very helpful players' I am piling on, when most of those guys are starting.

ROLB James Harrison 98 - 31 - 1 roughly = SS Adrian Wilson - 98 - 29 - 1
DT Casey Hampton 96 - 31 - 1 roughly = LT Mike Gandy - 94 - 30 - 1
SS Troy Polamalu 98 - 28 - 3 = MLB Gerald Hayes - 89 - 28 - 3, FB Terrelle Smith - 88 - 31 - 2, ROLB Chike Okeafor - 85 - 32 - 1, RE Travis Laboy - 86 - 28 - 4 (Hayes starting, along with Smith, Okeafor getting significant playing time / starting, along with Laboy). 4 mid to high 80s should be equal to a 98.
RT Max Starks 78 - 27 - 1 roughly = DT Alan Branch - 79 - 24 - 2 (Age, contract, playing time)
5th, 6th = WR Reggie Williams - 78 - 26 - 2 (Two late uncertainties for a given WR)


I honestly cannot fathom how the fuck this was turned down, because when you match it up, it makes perfect sense.

Then a trade like this:

Falcons get:

Roddy White 96/27/1 WR
Anthony Spencer 80/25/3 LOLB
4 contract points

Eagles get:

DQwell Jackson 88/25/2 MLB
1st round (#15)
1st round (#31)


Gets approved?

So a WR which will cost upwards of near 10 points (and is only going to get better, blew up last season with a rookie QB, imagine more time) and a LB that hasn't done anything significant, for a good MLB, and two picks that will end up being better than Spencer?

What a fucking joke. I demand a re-vote without Harper involved, given that his personal feelings obviously voted no.

I just cannot imagine how a Trade, which matches up PERFECTLY, does not get approved. The only parts that don't cancel each other out is Troy and the 4 starters I am giving up for him, which the Steelers need currently need and asked for this trade.

Stop bitching. It had nothing to do with my "personal feelings" as 2 other people voted no as well. You always find SOMETHING to bitch about.

LMAO so I give you a reasoning as to why this trade is shit and you block me. Grow up man, arent you in college? Shouldnt you have a higher maturity level than my little brother?

Harper41 wrote:

Stop bitching. It had nothing to do with my "personal feelings" as 2 other people voted no as well. You always find SOMETHING to bitch about.

Then the TC overall needs to be re-evaluated. I was under the impression that the TC was installed to monitor and make sure teams aren't getting totally ripped off. Trades are not going to be perfect down to a T.

But when one TC (YOU) votes No very soon after my calling you out, and the trade was 2-1 after you voted, and Sox all but confirmed it was you, then I find that suspicious and your emotions got the better of your judgement.

In addition, Sox has been requesting Hampton from me, then suddenly decides (after having told me it was a good deal) to vote no and send it to denied... suspicious.

Harper41 wrote:

LMAO so I give you a reasoning as to why this trade is shit and you block me. Grow up man, arent you in college? Shouldnt you have a higher maturity level than my little brother?

I didn't block you. No knowledge of that.

Get back on AIM, Tony.

Desert Demon wrote:

Harper41 wrote:

LMAO so I give you a reasoning as to why this trade is shit and you block me. Grow up man, arent you in college? Shouldnt you have a higher maturity level than my little brother?

I didn't block you. No knowledge of that.

Really? Your not online on my main SN but you are on my old SN, thats VERY strange.

Harper41 wrote:

Desert Demon wrote:

Harper41 wrote:

LMAO so I give you a reasoning as to why this trade is shit and you block me. Grow up man, arent you in college? Shouldnt you have a higher maturity level than my little brother?

I didn't block you. No knowledge of that.

Really? Your not online on my main SN but you are on my old SN, thats VERY strange.

Proof?

I'm online. Ask around.

Only Sox is hiding from AIM right now.

Yeah you blocked me. Now trying to hide it? Your quite immature. The trade was bad it got denied, no re-votes because your paranoid about everything. Rework the trade, its not hard.

Harper41 wrote:

Yeah you blocked me. Now trying to hide it? Your quite immature. The trade was bad it got denied, no re-votes because your paranoid about everything. Rework the trade, its not hard.

We had been told why it was unfair.

We went back, I added a 94 and 79, he added a 78 and 5th, 6th, and then I double checked with two TC members (one who later betrayed the vote).

After getting a good to go, we posted it.

Funny hearing you tell me to re-work a good trade. Then again, you don't know anything about a good trade unless it's in your favor.

And no, I never blocked you.

Really? Ive made plenty of trades not in my favor, you havent been active in months so you really wouldnt know would you? You added an old 94 and a bust at DT. I never said id vote yes, not my fault that 2 other people thought it was unfair as well. Complaining isnt going to get it passed so save yourself some time and rework it.

Harper41 wrote:

Really? Ive made plenty of trades not in my favor, you havent been active in months so you really wouldnt know would you? You added an old 94 and a bust at DT. I never said id vote yes, not my fault that 2 other people thought it was unfair as well. Complaining isnt going to get it passed so save yourself some time and rework it.

I know you never said you would vote it.

I have heard enough from you, I knew you would vote no after I called you out for being the fool you are.

I would like to hear from the other trading council members, given that Patfan and I decided that I would add additional things when we had agreed previously, then asked whether or not the new deal was enough, and that still isn't enough?

I would like to hear the explanations, and how exactly the TC thought it was unfair. I provided how we saw the trade, and how it was equally matched up everywhere.

I've also already heard from you MK that you voted no based on the BELIEF (NOT FACT) that some of my players will go down (despite not doing so after the LAST UPDATE, which occurred AFTER the Super Bowl). Do you not think Hampton might lose a point? Or perhaps my players will gain points?

Didn't realize we're judging trades based on what one thinks, rather than actually LOOK at the trade, see TWO GMs who AGREED, see how it benefits BOTH sides in their OWN way, and then vote yes or no NOT based on what ONE thinks, but whether or not one team is getting unfairly ripped off.

I will be awaiting the responses of the other voters.