Ok Cassell bidding is on

Well this year his arm is getting 8-12 months off...

Not necessarily...He still has intense workouts probably more so than during a normal regular season.

Yeah but not throwing workouts.... and also, the workouts don't make up for getting hit by those linebackers and defensive ends.

getting sacked isnt the QB's fault. its the o-line

imevil wrote:

getting sacked isnt the QB's fault. its the o-line

I really dont think thats the issue at hand

MK bradys not a moble QB he's going to be fine. His ability to avoid pressure is going to continue to help him. I see Brady playing a good 5-6 more years at least, and we drafted O'Connell for a reason. We don't need to keep Cassel.

Harper41 wrote:

36? Thats a little extreme, not many players make it to 36...

lawl, and franchise QBs retire when theyre 33?

TDJ read this

SoxNats08 wrote:

Tom Brady doesn't have too much wear, he was never one to get sacked a lot. And quite a few QBs go past 35... Brett Favre, Kurt Warner, Kerry Collins are just 3 of em that are successful right now, but I can give you a lot more examples if you want.

imevil wrote:

TDJ read this

SoxNats08 wrote:

Tom Brady doesn't have too much wear, he was never one to get sacked a lot. And quite a few QBs go past 35... Brett Favre, Kurt Warner, Kerry Collins are just 3 of em that are successful right now, but I can give you a lot more examples if you want.

theyre talking about physical effects of getting sacked, not whos fault it is for why he got sacked

Im sorry but O'Connel is not the Patriots future at QB, hes a HUGE project. I doubt hes ever anything more than a 3rd string QB.

Also, Brady may not retire but hell start to slow down like most other QBs.

Harper41 wrote:

Im sorry but O'Connel is not the Patriots future at QB, hes a HUGE project. I doubt hes ever anything more than a 3rd string QB.

You know very little about the Patriots. O'Connell has better physical skills than Cassel, he probably would have been the starter for the rest of the season except Cassel is more familiar with the playbook. He's not a project at all, he started in college (unlike Cassel), and was one of the most experienced QBs in the draft.

BTW people said the same thing of Cassel.

SoxNats08 wrote:

Harper41 wrote:

Im sorry but O'Connel is not the Patriots future at QB, hes a HUGE project. I doubt hes ever anything more than a 3rd string QB.

You know very little about the Patriots. O'Connell has better physical skills than Cassel, he probably would have been the starter for the rest of the season except Cassel is more familiar with the playbook. He's not a project at all, he started in college (unlike Cassel), and was one of the most experienced QBs in the draft.

BTW people said the same thing of Cassel.

I wouldn't be surprized if he knows this, just hes downgrading like he always does.

Mr.Showtime wrote:

I wouldn't be surprized if he knows this, just hes downgrading like he always does.

I wouldn't be surprised if you failed English

I got A's in all my English classes, thank you.

Mr.Showtime wrote:

I got A's in all my English classes, thank you.

could have fooled me

Yeah, I don't believe Travis, unless he's in special ed.

I take school differently then football web sites, if you didn't know.

Mr.Showtime wrote:

I take school differently then football web sites, if you didn't know.

same with me. but you punks wont get off of my case

imevil wrote:

Mr.Showtime wrote:

I take school differently then football web sites, if you didn't know.

same with me. but you punks wont get off of my case

Because you make the dumbest mistakes.

SoxNats08 wrote:

Harper41 wrote:

Im sorry but O'Connel is not the Patriots future at QB, hes a HUGE project. I doubt hes ever anything more than a 3rd string QB.

You know very little about the Patriots. O'Connell has better physical skills than Cassel, he probably would have been the starter for the rest of the season except Cassel is more familiar with the playbook. He's not a project at all, he started in college (unlike Cassel), and was one of the most experienced QBs in the draft.

BTW people said the same thing of Cassel.

Physical skills dont equal success, O'Connell is a project, he has pretty bad accuracy, all he has over Cassel is his speed to be honest and maybe his arm.

Harper41 wrote:

SoxNats08 wrote:

Harper41 wrote:

Im sorry but O'Connel is not the Patriots future at QB, hes a HUGE project. I doubt hes ever anything more than a 3rd string QB.

You know very little about the Patriots. O'Connell has better physical skills than Cassel, he probably would have been the starter for the rest of the season except Cassel is more familiar with the playbook. He's not a project at all, he started in college (unlike Cassel), and was one of the most experienced QBs in the draft.

BTW people said the same thing of Cassel.

Physical skills dont equal success, O'Connell is a project, he has pretty bad accuracy, all he has over Cassel is his speed to be honest and maybe his arm.

I didn't say they equaled success. Where do you get that he has pretty bad accuracy? Cassel has better accuracy than he does in the short ball, but he doesn't have "bad" accuracy. He has a better overall arm than Cassel (he can make all the throws), he does have better speed than Cassel, which you admitted to. If they had the same knowledge of the system, I bet you O'Connell starts over Cassel. He's not a project, he could play decently if thrown in the fire right now.

O'Connel is a project, reason they drafted him, he has potential but AT THIS MOMENT hes a pretty terrible QB, he had a chance to prove himself in preseason and he played pretty awful.

Harper41 wrote:

O'Connel is a project, reason they drafted him, he has potential but AT THIS MOMENT hes a pretty terrible QB, he had a chance to prove himself in preseason and he played pretty awful.

O'Connell had a QB rating of 46.9 in the preseason. Cassel's was 55.9. Factoring that Cassel got more reps and had more time to be consistent, I'd say Cassel slightly outplayed him in the preseason. True, neither played well, but look at Cassel now versus then. O'Connell would have a similar level of growth.

You can look at it the other way as well...Less playing time means inflated stats. O'Connell IS a project who will not be ready to start for an NFL team for atleast 2 seasons.