Zoom/SoxNats argument

PatsNats09 · Admin Posts: 2673 Join date: 2008-08-21 Age: 16

Touchdown Jesus wrote:

SoxNats09 wrote:

Touchdown Jesus wrote:

SoxNats09 wrote:

They were just examples, I could go on... do you want me to?

yes and instead of just naming off random players (which anyone can do) actually give proof that theyre worse.

What do you constitute as proof? Opinion? Probably not, yet that's what you gave me. Not too many stats for OL other than games started...

the only person I gave an opinion for was for McKinnie, so I dont know what you're talking about. I used facts for reasoning in the other ones, facts are not opinion.

Umm out of those 4, the only one you gave stats for was Clady.

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Touchdown Jesus · Admin Posts: 2076 Join date: 2008-08-21

SoxNats09 wrote:

Touchdown Jesus wrote:

SoxNats09 wrote:

Touchdown Jesus wrote:

SoxNats09 wrote:

They were just examples, I could go on... do you want me to?

yes and instead of just naming off random players (which anyone can do) actually give proof that theyre worse.

What do you constitute as proof? Opinion? Probably not, yet that's what you gave me. Not too many stats for OL other than games started...

the only person I gave an opinion for was for McKinnie, so I dont know what you're talking about. I used facts for reasoning in the other ones, facts are not opinion.

Umm out of those 4, the only one you gave stats for was Clady.

I didnt give stats for Clady, I said a fact about Clady, infact I gave facts for 3 of them and then you said facts are opinions.

did you expect me to say in my opinion the Cardinals made the SB and in my opinion the Dolphins were the division leaders? If so you dont know what an opinion is.

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PatsNats09 · Admin Posts: 2673 Join date: 2008-08-21 Age: 16

Touchdown Jesus wrote:

SoxNats09 wrote:

Touchdown Jesus wrote:

SoxNats09 wrote:

Touchdown Jesus wrote:

SoxNats09 wrote:

They were just examples, I could go on... do you want me to?

yes and instead of just naming off random players (which anyone can do) actually give proof that theyre worse.

What do you constitute as proof? Opinion? Probably not, yet that's what you gave me. Not too many stats for OL other than games started...

the only person I gave an opinion for was for McKinnie, so I dont know what you're talking about. I used facts for reasoning in the other ones, facts are not opinion.

Umm out of those 4, the only one you gave stats for was Clady.

I didnt give stats for Clady, I said a fact about Clady, infact I gave facts for 3 of them and then you said facts are opinions.

did you expect me to say in my opinion the Cardinals made the SB and in my opinion the Dolphins were the division leaders? If so you dont know what an opinion is.

Those are facts, but that doesn't mean they played well. You gave a stat for Clady in that he allowed 0 sacks in his first 9 games.

Okay, the Eagles made it to the conference finals, and that's better than 28 other NFL teams, and Tra Thomas was crucial in protecting McNabb. There's my argument, all facts.

Quite frankly, that doesn't say too much, nor do your facts.

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PatsNats09 · Admin Posts: 2673 Join date: 2008-08-21 Age: 16

BTW I moved this here cuz it's more appropriate here.

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Touchdown Jesus · Admin Posts: 2076 Join date: 2008-08-21

SoxNats09 wrote:

Those are facts, but that doesn't mean they played well. You gave a stat for Clady in that he allowed 0 sacks in his first 9 games.

ok so the greatest turnaround in NFL history has nothing to do with the #1 overall pick performing well, if thats your line of thinking then theres simply no reasoning with you.

I didnt give a stat for Clady, its a FACT that he allowed 0 sacks in 9 games. Its not a STAT that he allowed 0 sacks in 9 games, the way I presented it was factual, if I had taken into account the full season then it would be a statistic, a stat has to take into account something in its entirety (a game, a season, whatever) not an ideal portion of it.

SoxNats09 wrote:

Okay, the Eagles made it to the conference finals, and that's better than 28 other NFL teams, and Tra Thomas was crucial in protecting McNabb. There's my argument, all facts.

zomg guess who they lost too!!

Eagles didnt get to the conference finals because of their offense, the defense got them their if anything. The fact sucks because you suck at presenting accurate facts.

I thought you could kinda figure out where I was going with the whole dolphins thing but apparently you need me to hold your hand through the whole ordeal

-Dolphins draft OT #1 overall
-Dolphins go 11-5
-reason Dolphins go 11-5?
-A: trick plays, balanced running attack, good QB, pass rush
-where do trick plays usually get run?
-A: to the outside
-who guards the outside?
-A: OT's
-who plays OT for the Dolphins?
-A: Jake Long
-who rushes for 5.0 ypc when Jake Long is the primary blocker (this is a statistic incase you were wondering)
-A: Ricky Williams/Ronnie Brown

-who's offensive centerpiece dissapeared last season?
-A: Brian Westbrook
-who's supposed to block for Westbrook?
-A: Offensive Line
-who's on the offensive Line?
-A: Tra Thomas
-who didnt get re-signed?
-A: Tra Thomas

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PatsNats09 · Admin Posts: 2673 Join date: 2008-08-21 Age: 16

You're right. I wish I was half I was good as you are at life.

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Touchdown Jesus · Admin Posts: 2076 Join date: 2008-08-21

SoxNats09 wrote:

You're right. I wish I was half I was good as you are at life.

I wish I could put together coherent sentences

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PatsNats09 · Admin Posts: 2673 Join date: 2008-08-21 Age: 16

Thank you.

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imevil · Posts: 491 Join date: 2008-08-23 Age: 18 Location: Im Dead

ROFL!

PatsNats09 · Admin Posts: 2673 Join date: 2008-08-21 Age: 16

imevil wrote:

ROFL!

Actually, I was just kinda sick of arguing about something pointless, but I still believe in my point.

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Touchdown Jesus · Admin Posts: 2076 Join date: 2008-08-21

SoxNats09 wrote:

imevil wrote:

ROFL!

Actually, I was just kinda sick of arguing about something pointless, but I still believe in my point.

Do you believe in flying spaghetti monsters too? because you seem to believe in things that arent true

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Mr.Showtime · Posts: 950 Join date: 2008-10-04 Age: 18

I would like to eat a flying spaghetti monster, Im pretty hungry right now.

Harper41 · Admin Posts: 1244 Join date: 2008-10-04

I dont think Tra Thomas not being re-signed has anything to do with his abilities...The Eagles are getting young, Tra Thomas is not young. They didnt resign Dawkins but hes still a good player. I think Westbrooks decline has nothing to do with Thomas, I think it has to due with him being injured and having nagging injuries, him getting older, and him being the centerpiece of the offense and the whole league knew it.

I dont think Tra Thomas is a top 5 LT but hes certainly not as bad as your trying to make him appear.

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Touchdown Jesus · Admin Posts: 2076 Join date: 2008-08-21

Harper41 wrote:

I dont think Tra Thomas not being re-signed has anything to do with his abilities...The Eagles are getting young, Tra Thomas is not young. They didnt resign Dawkins but hes still a good player. I think Westbrooks decline has nothing to do with Thomas, I think it has to due with him being injured and having nagging injuries, him getting older, and him being the centerpiece of the offense and the whole league knew it.

I dont think Tra Thomas is a top 5 LT but hes certainly not as bad as your trying to make him appear.

I said he was a top 15, nothing wrong with that. However Ray Lewis is a top 5 MLB which is where this whole arguement stemmed from. Besides, if Thomas was any more valuable than top 15 they would have kept him around for when they inevitably draft an OT, especially with Runyan in the position he's in.

Westbrook has been the centerpiece of the offense for years, you're saying opposing defenses have just learned of this now? Hes also always had injury troubles, yet that hasnt stopped him from recording 4.8 ypc or higher, this is old news that hasnt dragged him down before. Philly was off on the run-block this year.

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Harper41 · Admin Posts: 1244 Join date: 2008-10-04

Hes also getting up their in age...He could have hit the wall much like LT did. He went from stud couldnt be stopped HB to just another good one.

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