Vince Young

Steve Smith #12 · Posts: 181 Join date: 2008-08-21

Yan wrote:

yan54880 (10:56:37 PM): He is better than: Kyle Orton, Matt Hasselbeck, Shaun Hill, Delhomne, Collins, Garrard, Garcia, Edwards, Quinn and Anderson, Frerotte, Culpepper, Bulger

Hasselbeck, Delhomme, Garrard, and Garcia are much, much better than Vince Young.

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Touchdown Jesus · Admin Posts: 2076 Join date: 2008-08-21

Harper41 wrote:

the real reason I wanted him to post this was that VY is definetly not better than some of the QBs listed above, this season or last season or any season, VY is not a good QUARTERBACK, he might win games but that credit should not go to Vince it should go to their very good defense, he has more career INTs than passing TDs and the teams being run better than Collins which IMO is not a coincidence.

check out the bottom of this list

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&defensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&conference=ALL&role=OPP&season=2006&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=TOTAL_YARDS_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-n=1

you guessed it, Tennessee Titans, in 2006 they had the worst defense in the nfl but VY took a 4-12 team to 8-8 that year

and a vet QB is going to play better than a 2 year QB 90% of the time anyway.

Harper41 · Admin Posts: 1244 Join date: 2008-10-04

SoxNats08 wrote:

No, you're saying that he's a bad QB, which he's not.

No read the AIM conversation, I had him post this because VY is definetly NOT better than some of the QBs he listed.

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PatsNats09 · Admin Posts: 2673 Join date: 2008-08-21 Age: 16

Harper41 wrote:

SoxNats08 wrote:

No, you're saying that he's a bad QB, which he's not.

No read the AIM conversation, I had him post this because VY is definetly NOT better than some of the QBs he listed.

You're right about that part, but you're wrong in other parts.

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Harper41 · Admin Posts: 1244 Join date: 2008-10-04

Sox VY is NOT a good QB, what in the world makes you think otherwise? He has more career INTs than TDs, doesnt that alone make him a bad QUARTERBACK. He might win games with his feet, maybe, but as a pocket passer/thrower of the football he is a bottom tier QB, hes Michael Vick but worse.

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Steve Smith #12 · Posts: 181 Join date: 2008-08-21

If Vince Young were quarterbacking this whole season, they'd have at least 2-3 more losses than they do.

That's just real talk.

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PatsNats09 · Admin Posts: 2673 Join date: 2008-08-21 Age: 16

Harper41 wrote:

Sox VY is NOT a good QB, what in the world makes you think otherwise? He has more career INTs than TDs, doesnt that alone make him a bad QUARTERBACK. He might win games with his feet, maybe, but as a pocket passer/thrower of the football he is a bottom tier QB, hes Michael Vick but worse.

I didn't say he was a good QB, I said he wasn't a bad QB.

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Mr.Showtime · Posts: 950 Join date: 2008-10-04 Age: 18

VY=Travarous Jackson.

Scramblers, yes. Accurate and good QB's? No.

Touchdown Jesus · Admin Posts: 2076 Join date: 2008-08-21

Mr.Showtime wrote:

VY=Travarous Jackson.

Scramblers, yes. Accurate and good QB's? No.

being in canada they tend to air all of the northern states' games up here

Ive seen 2 or 3 out of the 5 games that T-Jax started and I can tell you hes not a scrambling QB, as of right now Joe Flacco takes off for yardage more often than Jackson does.

greenway_4_sho · Subject: Re: Vince Young November 30th 2008, 6:36 am

Yeah, Tarvaris Jackson isnt a scrambler, he can run fast, but cant scramble.

Mr.Showtime · Posts: 950 Join date: 2008-10-04 Age: 18

Yan wrote:

Yeah, Tarvaris Jackson isnt a scrambler, he can run fast, but cant scramble.

Thats really what I ment, speedy and can run.

Mr.Showtime · Posts: 950 Join date: 2008-10-04 Age: 18

Oh yeah. I never said this. Yan, you think VY will start next year? Aslong as Kerry Collins stays alive and wins games, he will start. He has been pretty good throwing the ball, taking the game and running with it. Plus aren't they going to resign Collins and Simms?

greenway_4_sho · Subject: Re: Vince Young November 30th 2008, 4:43 pm

Mr.Showtime wrote:

Oh yeah. I never said this. Yan, you think VY will start next year? Aslong as Kerry Collins stays alive and wins games, he will start. He has been pretty good throwing the ball, taking the game and running with it. Plus aren't they going to resign Collins and Simms?

They wont resign Collins.

Touchdown Jesus · Admin Posts: 2076 Join date: 2008-08-21

Mr.Showtime wrote:

Oh yeah. I never said this. Yan, you think VY will start next year? Aslong as Kerry Collins stays alive and wins games, he will start. He has been pretty good throwing the ball, taking the game and running with it. Plus aren't they going to resign Collins and Simms?

Simms is not the future anywhere, they have no real reason to resign simms. Collins is getting to be around Moses' age, the Titans are one of the youngest teams in the NFL, the two dont match up at all.

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If I had a QB that can manage the game like Collins can and lead the team to a 11-1 record, I would be out to resign him no matter how old the fucker is.

Especially if the alternative wanted to take himself out of a game after getting demoralized over a mistake.

I don't know about you, but I don't want a guy like that as my QB.